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Land Broker Insider

Welcome to the Land Broker Insider! We exist to help accomplish your goals through land ownership. On this show, host Kasey Mock will interview experts from the world of land ownership. From finance, title and legal, to oil and gas, land management, conservation and more: We want to share as much knowledge possible through stories of adventure in the outdoors. Go Get em! Land Broker Insider is presented by The Mock Ranches Group at Keller Williams International, 2018 National Recreational Land Broker of the Year.
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Apr 3, 2024

Kasey Mock, Matt Gruetzner and Max Ramsey of www.mockranches.com sit down with Craig Kaizer, President of LandGate www.landgate.com. The guys discuss renewable energy values, why top brokers understand the whole bundle of sticks, and the new technology available through LandGate and LandApp.. This was a live recording from the Realtors land Institute https://www.rliland.com 2024 National Land Conference in Louisville, KY.

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Mar 27, 2024

Kasey Mock, Chad Andrus and Max Ramsey of www.mockranches.com sit down with Steve Roberson, Founder and President of Landid, formerly MapRight https://www.id.land. The guys discuss innovations and the evolution of mapping technology, availability of data, and mapping as a tool. This was a live recording from the Realtors land Institute https://www.rliland.com 2024 National Land Conference in Louisville, KY. 

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Mar 19, 2024

Kasey Mock https://www.mockranches.com sits down with Dan Murphy, Seth Craft and Jake Murphy of M4 Ranch Group https://m4ranchgroup.com. M4 is a team of dedicated ranch brokers, licensed in Colorado, New Mexico and Wyoming. Their slogan is "Anywhere, any time." These guys are simply the best in the west for selling large western ranches. This was a live recording from the Realtors land Institute https://www.rliland.com 2024 National Land Conference in Louisville, KY. The guys discuss trends in large ranch sales, their commitment to excellence, and share fun stories. 

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Mar 13, 2024

This week, Kasey Mock and Bill Davis discuss building profitable referral partnerships. They emphasize collaboration, transparency, and setting clear expectations. Bill highlights documenting expectations to avoid misunderstandings in partnerships. They also discuss decision-making for deals and ensuring clarity on responsibilities and commissions, and the importance of fostering strong industry relationships through communication and professionalism.

Jan 17, 2024

This week, Kasey talks about 15 reflective questions to ask yourself for a better you!

1. Who are you? 
2. What do you believe? 
3. What motivates you? 
4. How do you define fulfillment? 
5. What do you need to control? 
6. What do you need to let go of? 
7. How would you rate your spiritual health? 
8. How would you rate your physical health? 
9. How would you rate your key relationships? 
10. What does money mean to you? 
11. Why do you want more of it? 
12. How do you know when you have enough? 
13. Does your environment support your goals? 
14. Do you have a clear sequential path to your goals? 
15. What's the ONE THING you can do, such that by doing it, everything else would become easier or unnecessary, in each of these categories? 
Dec 20, 2023

This week, Kasey Mock talks with his friend Nathan Olmstead, who runs Muskwa Outfitters in Canada and discusses his operation with him. Nathan shares how his father started the business back in the 1980s and their focus on providing hunting experiences for families and corporate clients. They talk about their conservation efforts, including a wolf cull program to protect caribou herds, as well as the challenges they face from government regulations. The conversation also touches on topics like hunting taxes, logistics of running an outfitting business, multi-species slams, intentional parenting through outdoor activities, conventions like Dallas Safari Club and Safari Club International where new clients can be found, booking timelines for different hunts, and the various species available for hunting. 

To learn more about Nathan and his business, check out:

https://www.olmsteadhunting.com/

Dec 13, 2023

This week, Kasey Mock talks with Matt Gruetzner about his business strategies in multiple disciplines.  Matt discusses his transition from working in the oil field to real estate.  Matt shares his knowledge on various topics related to grass producition, the sustainability of box meat providers, the shift in people's preferences for knowing where their food comes from, buying and selling Texas land, transitioning generational properties into income-producing options, obtaining the Certified Land Consultant designation, the importance of asking quality questions when working with buyers and sellers, 1031s and tax strategy.

Nov 8, 2023

On this episode, Kasey Mock discusses how important it is to set aside time to complete your business goal planning for 2024. He explains the SWOT assessment (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats) and encourages listeners to evaluate their internal strengths and weaknesses as well as external opportunities and threats. Kasey highlights some potential threats in the real estate industry such as data disruption, political factors, weather patterns, and economic conditions, and stresses the need for proactive goal planning sessions before each new year to avoid reactive decision-making because of those threats. Kasey also urges entrepreneurs to involve key stakeholders like CPAs and wealth managers in goal-setting discussions for both personal finances and business growth.

 

Check out the GPS planning tool here

Nov 1, 2023

On this episode, Kasey Mock talks with his wife and CFO of Mock Ranches Group, Elizabeth Mock. They discuss various topics such as their roles in the company, their personal journey together as a husband-wife team in business, and the challenges they faced during COVID-19. They also talk about their financial strategies and how they became more proactive in managing their finances by finding a better CPA.  They dive into common mistakes made by husband-wife business owners, including avoiding financial conversations or hiring their spouse out of selfishness or scarcity mindset, and how building a lifestyle around income too early can hinder reinvestment back into the business and impede its growth. Finally, they discuss how it is crucial for business owners to hire based on qualifications rather than personal relationships to ensure optimal success in fulfilling promises made to employees, customers, contractors, vendors, and family members.

Sep 6, 2023

On this episode, Kasey Mock talks with Jonathon Goode about their approaches to work, faith, family, and even podcasting. They share personal stories about how their faith has helped them overcome challenges in their businesses. Kasey and Jonathon also touch on time management and prioritizing what is most important in their lives.  They discuss the importance of not leaving their partners and agents feeling neglected or forgotten as they make changes in the company, and emphasize the need to invest in leadership and personnel to ensure a successful career.  They highlight how companies that tighten up during recessions tend to lose market share, while those that focus on growth can gain an advantage. The importance of coaching is also emphasized, with examples given from different industries where coaches play a vital role in improving performance. They also discuss current real estate market conditions, including interest rates and gaps between price points where business is affected by costs and availability of financing options. 

For the appreciation graph from Gary Keller's Mastermind that Kasey mentioned, click here

 

Aug 30, 2023

On part two of this episode, Kasey and Max continue their discussion of Gary Keller's 12 Biggest Leadership mistakes.  They dive into failing to inspect expectations, both qualitatively and quantitatively, and share how inspecting progress regularly allows for course correction and prevents falling short of goals. They discuss the pitfalls of failing to help people grow, as it hinders a company's consistent growth pattern and healthy culture. They also discuss how letting goals be the bad guy can lead to personal relationships interfering with accountability in business relationships, because effective leaders are willing to have difficult conversations and hold people accountable based on expectations rather than emotions or personal relationships.

Aug 23, 2023

On this episode, Kasey and Max discuss how businesses need to solve problems for customers through scaling, which requires leveraging time and resources. He highlights that many entrepreneurs struggle with hiring due to lack of clear vision or planning. Kasey and Max also dive into the twelve leadership mistakes they heard Gary Keller present at Mega Agent Camp in Austin, TX this year.   Kasey explains that leadership is about providing vision, energy, and managing people, money, and culture, and acknowledges that finding and motivating the right people is a common struggle for businesses today.

Tune in next week for part two!

Aug 9, 2023

On this episode, Kasey Mock continues his conversation with Josh Deal, and they dive into government programs that benefit land owners, such as county extension agents, Agri Life Extension offices,Texas Parks and Wildlife, and NRCS (Natural Resource Conservation Services). These agencies provide consulting services, research facilities, and assistance in managing wildlife populations or addressing soil erosion issues on properties of any size. Josh also discusses programs available for cost-sharing on specific practices like grass planting or brush management through programs like Environmental Quality Incentive Program (Equip). Additionally, he shares tax benefits for landowners who manage their property for wildlife or pollinators, and how income caps may apply to some cost-share programs based on non-farm income levels. Overall, these government resources offer valuable assistance in achieving land management goals and reducing property taxes while promoting conservation efforts.

Aug 2, 2023

On this episode, Kasey talks with Josh, an expert in range ecology and rangeland management, about his background working for USDA's Natural Resources Conservation Service before transitioning into real estate. Josh explains how he helps buyers and sellers achieve their goals by assessing a property's potential and creating a plan based on their objectives. Kasey adds that there is currently an imbalance in the real estate market with too many agents and not enough business to go around due to factors like technology advancements.  Kasey and Josh discuss the importance of pricing in selling properties, and break down how buyers have knowledge of a property's worth and will only pay what they believe it is worth, regardless of the listed price.  They also highlight the risk sellers face when passing on offers within range, as potential buyers may move on to other properties. 

Jul 26, 2023

On this episode, Kasey delivers a Mastermind on the significance of setting goals for financial health and overall life balance before diving into wealth building strategies. He highlights the need to have a compelling "big why" behind one's pursuit of wealth rather than solely focusing on money itself.  Kasey discusses various strategies for real estate investment, including buying multiple homes with financing, flipping properties, and investing in land. He explains the advantages and disadvantages of each approach, emphasizing the importance of not working for the same dollar twice. Kasey also highlights the tax benefits of investing in residential multifamily and commercial real estate.  Kasey shares various ways to save on taxes, emphasizing the importance of maximizing profitability in business. He explains the use of the Augusta Rule, which allows renting personal property for tax-free income, and also highlights paying children a tax-free salary and utilizing cost segregation for rental properties as effective strategies.

Jul 19, 2023

On this episode from the June Land Broker Mastermind, Kasey Mock breaks down data on the real estate market, stating that there are too many Realtors for the current demand but believes that there is still enough opportunity for anyone to make a living or even earn a million dollars. He compares navigating a shifted market to how American buffaloes charge through storms instead of running away, emphasizing that leaning into challenges leads to faster success. Kasey stresses knowing one's numbers and viewing business as a math equation in order to adapt successfully during market shifts. He discusses agent categories based on performance levels and explains that churn during previous recessions primarily occurred in the middle tier rather than at the top or bottom levels. 

Kasey discusses how the market has been impacted by various factors such as political circumstances, COVID-19, and low interest rates that have prevented necessary corrections from happening.  He explains why it is crucial to understand market cycles and know your numbers to avoid making emotional decisions based on comparisons with neighbors or past trends. Being a local trusted advisor is still essential as people prefer doing business with someone they trust rather than going digital or remote. Kasey dives into how investment-grade properties, especially ranch land, are currently in high demand due to investors seeking diversification and wealth protection amidst anticipated economic changes.

Kasey emphasizes that it's necessary for real estate professionals to focus on managing their math equation (offense) rather than just riding the wave of favorable market conditions because eventually there will be a downturn (defense). 

Jul 12, 2023

Kasey Mock continues his conversation with Abe Shreeve about leadership.  Abe discusses the value of investing in people and allowing them to make mistakes in order to learn and grow. He advises business owners to avoid micromanaging their employees and instead empower them to make decisions. They share insights on leadership development, including creating systems for reporting progress and providing coaching support. They also break down hiring strategies, categorizing talent into unproven, emerging, and proven categories, with a preference for emerging talent as they have potential for growth without demanding high salaries like proven talent does.

For more information on the Millionaire Business Network, go here.

Jul 5, 2023

On this episode, Kasey and Abe discusses the loneliness that comes with business ownership and leadership, highlighting how even as a business grows, leaders can feel isolated. Abe suggests being vulnerable within your team and having two-way accountability to combat this loneliness.  Abe shares an example of implementing a communication model called "The Scales of Awesome" with his comanpy's president, Charlotte, to improve their working relationship. Additionally, he mentions the value of taking leadership teams to conferences for growth and development.

Jun 28, 2023

On this episode, Kasey Mock talks with Abe Shreeve about the definition of the sacred art of coaching. They discuss consultative coaching versus teaching, highlighting that coaching is not a one-size-fits-all approach. Abe explains that coaching involves wearing different hats depending on what is needed, whether it's providing answers or helping clients discover their own solutions. Kasey and Abe also touch on the value of accountability and driving progress in business through coaching. They also reflect on vulnerability in coaching, and emphasize that coaching focuses on where individuals want to go and what they are willing to do to get there.

May 24, 2023

In this episode, Kasey and Max discuss the importance of systematic behavior, purposeful business, models, and leverage in achieving success, citing examples they heard from Gary Keller recently. They emphasize the need to focus on core activities and building relationships with clients, while also leveraging the talents of others. Max provides insights on achieving breakthroughs and the importance of clarity and purposeful conversations.  They remind everyone not to run from the storm, but to charge it.

May 17, 2023

On this episode, Kasey and Max discuss options for real estate agents during market shifts: do nothing, safety up, or charge through it by getting serious about offensive strategies like doubling down on value provided, metrics, conversion rates and lead generators. They also share insights gained from attending Keller Williams Family Reunion where they learned about charging the storm and being intentional about training and standards for being on a team.
Max discusses the real estate market shift and the need to adapt by doing more and learning the math. Thy emphasize that not everyone will survive this shift, but being proactive and having a strong offensive strategy can lead to success. Kasey and Max discuss playing the long game in business, being surrounded by the right people, and thinking strategically as a leader.

May 10, 2023

On this episode, Chad discusses his goals for the coming year with Kasey, which include growing the Houston business by bringing in more agents. The conversation then turns to the importance of partnering and collaborating with others, especially in times of market shifts. Coaching is emphasized as a key tool for growth and success, and cutting it during tough times can be detrimental. Kasey breaks down how simplifying through systems, leverage, support, and proven models is crucial for navigating complexity and making strategic decisions that make sense for your business.  Kasey and Chad also discuss the importance of tracking numbers and knowing where business comes from in order to invest properly. 

May 3, 2023

Kasey Mock talks with Chad Landrus about how he went from operations to selling as an agent, and Chad shares tools he learned along the way that led him to being the top producer on the team.

 

Apr 26, 2023

Kasey was recently a guest on the Onward Faster Podcast with Bobby Moats, where he discussed his journey in real estate, his team philosophy, and how Livian has accelerated his business.  

Introduction 0:00-1:04

Kasey's Journey 1:05-21:44
Discusses changes in his business
Talks about creating a business plan and getting resources from KWRI
Talks about leadership and leverage
Discusses a mastermind they do monthly
Discusses the importance of focusing on income-producing activities
Livian and how it helps them stay in their strength zone
Talks about the challenges of operating alone in a business
Encourages listeners to learn from other people's experiences

Conclusion 21:47-44:24

Kasey gives his final thoughts on the importance of leveraging resources and learning from others' experiences.

Jun 3, 2021

Kasey was recently a guest on The Land.US Podcast to discuss his journey to founding the Mock Ranches Group, his business philosophy, the future of Land, crypto and a whole lot more.

He also gives great advice for folks looking to buy recreational land, environmental challenges for Texas as the population explodes and the 1031 Exchange. Enjoy the conversation and Go Get em!

(0:30) - Kasey’s journey to founding Mock Ranches Group

The Millionaire Real Estate Agent - Gary Keller

The One Thing - Gary Keller

(3:46) - What are Agrilife Resources?

Texas A&M Agrilife Extensions 

Natural Resources Conservation Service 

Farm Service Agency 

Texas Forest Service

Texas Parks and Wildlife

(5:32) - How Kasey’s experience in Agrilife programming gave him a leg up

(6:37) - Kasey’s Servant Leadership mentality 

(13:37) - How do you coach young people to be hungry enough to build a relationship-based business and not transaction-based?

(17:37) - Thinking like a business person, not a sales person

(21:49) - “Luxury” Hires vs. Business Hires

(23:07) - What does a better future for real estate look like?

(25:54) - Crypto as a contrast to land investments

(27:00) - What do the next 5 years look like for Land?

(29:53) - If land is going up, are we really buying high if we buy now?

(34:54) - Advice to folks in a 1031 Exchange position right now

#5: Greg Lehrmann - The 1031 Exchange

(37:32) - Why the 1031 is one of the greatest tools to stimulate economic growth and spending

(43:25) - What is someone getting into when they buy recreational land?

(49:55) - What environmental challenges do you predict from the mass migration away from cities into rural areas?

(57:00) - How can new residents be positive advocates for the environmental impact the rush of people to Texas will cause?

(59:13) - Kasey on Smart Databases 

Land Broker Insider is produced by Straight Up Podcasts

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